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* You feel as though you haven't got enough
* Baby getting upset at the breast (though can be a sign of other common problems)
* Baby is breastfeeding often or almost nonstop (feel like baby is always wanting to feed)
* A baby who was previously sleeping through the night is now waking to breast feed several times
* Baby will latch and unlatch, fussing in between

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Post by Squiglet on Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:21 pm

http://www.kjonline.com/news/breast-feedingsaves-lives-costsnew-study-says_2010-04-04.html

I know it's to do with the US...but I will guarantee that the same can be found in ALL Western countries. We have known for years that breastfeeding saves lives in the 3rd World and we have known that this could probably be applied to the Western world...Now scientists have refined it to the thing that actually means the most to those in positions of power...and that is money and number of lives saved. Lets just hope that this will make new government policies that give breastfeeding women help. Smile

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Post by AnnaMat25 on Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:33 am

haha that's exsactly what i said in my port folio when we had to do a reflective statement, i knew somethingb like this had to be writed at some point cas when you think about it properly it does save lifes and money

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Post by Natasha on Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:09 am

Thanks for the link. I think it would be wise that they did more studies over here.

I know lots of women who were unable to for long or had a lot of problems will say "but this isn't fair, it makes us feel guilty" this needs to be stamped out!

Women should not feel guilty, the government and health 'care' professionals should! as they have let these women down and are continuing to let the next generation of breastfeeding mothers down.

Its all well and good having the NHS breastfeeding site and the likes but the information in our health system is not consistent and many women STILL are getting the wrong help and support.

Dr. Melissa Bartick, an internist and instructor at Harvard Medical School. Breast-feeding is sometimes considered a lifestyle choice

This is exactly right, and it shouldn't be this way.

Its about flamin time formula advertising was banned completely, it is not the norm and shouldn't be. More women should be allowed to have the right to be with thier children in the first year without having to return to work (the main reason a lot of women switch in the first 6 months along with poor support). The billions they would save in the health system (due to increased health benefits) by encouraging mothers to stay with their babies and help them with breastfeeding would be more than they spend in keeping mums at home, im sure of it.

If only they would do a study to find out!

There is actualy only a minority of women who DON'T want to breastfeed, the majority do and with the right help and steps in the health system it could work.

But we can all dream!

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Post by Squiglet on Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:07 pm

Natasha wrote:

I know lots of women who were unable to for long or had a lot of problems will say "but this isn't fair, it makes us feel guilty" this needs to be stamped out!

Women should not feel guilty, the government and health 'care' professionals should! as they have let these women down and are continuing to let the next generation of breastfeeding mothers down.

Its all well and good having the NHS breastfeeding site and the likes but the information in our health system is not consistent and many women STILL are getting the wrong help and support.


This has always been my belief exactly. It's never been about the women, but the support that they should receive. The problem is that when breastfeeding was what all women did, society was in such a way that meant that women had consistant, reliable information. They didn't go to their doctors, most didn't have a doctor... They went to their mothers, sisters, aunts, friends... all of whom were breastfeeders and it was from them she would have known what was normal or not. They also got to SEE actually breastfeeding up close, it wasn't a mystery covered with a blanket. As the birth process was medicalised, this was lost. Now things were written in the book, people didn't see breastfeeding. People were told that formula was better. Mothers led to believe that they didn't have sufficient milk. These women are now grandmothers, and are often giving this information to their grandchildren...perpetuating the myth, even though modern science says otherwise. This can be seen in the medical professions too...with doctors, midwives and HV being from that generation who didn't breastfeed as the norm.

Formula companies have their foothold, they tell people that it's ok to formula feed and that it's a healthy, natural (organic - bite me!) alternative. Breast is best....buuuut formula is ok too.

Women are told that formula is the only safe alternative. But it's not. It's not an alternative at all. Formula was never intended to be mass produced this way. Henri Nestle only made it for orphans and foundlings with the idea that the alternative was a wet nurse. But now when a mother experiences a problem, they are instantly referred to the "alternative" - formula.

The amount of women I have met recently who have told me things about their breastfeeding woes... It's never been
"Well my husband/family member disapproved"
"I tried it but didn't like it"
"I wanted my freedom and body back"

It's been,
"I didn't think I was producing enough milk, so the doctors told me to try this formula"
"The doctors at the hospital said he was failing to thrive, so I had to top up with formula"
"He lost weight so I was told to use formula or else by the doctor"

Really agressive, nasty. The best one was a lady who was told that after her baby got a rash, she was actually posioning her baby with her breastmilk, and the baby was allergic. She stopped and moved onto the hypoallergenic formula given to her by the doctor...what happened? It turned into excema. (sp?) and when she tried to relactate she couldn't. Now that child is going to cost hundreds of pounds each year in creams and probably other health related illness treatment (like asthma).

Out of all the people I know who have had babies, only one...ONE...decided she didn't want to breastfeed at all and didn't. She didn't because she wanted to go out drinking and be able to leave the baby with whomever she wished from birth. Everyone else has at least given it a go and those who didn't do it for very long did so because they medical profession stuck their oar in.

I do hope this goes further. I hope that other countries adopt their own studies, that formula advertising is completely banned and doctors treat the prescription of formula with the same view as other drugs and medicines they prescribe.

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Post by Natasha on Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:44 pm

I do hope this goes further. I hope that other countries adopt their own studies, that formula advertising is completely banned and doctors treat the prescription of formula with the same view as other drugs and medicines they prescribe.

They do this in Holland from what I have read.

I completely agree with your post Morag.

I do really feel for women who unfortunatly couldn't continue breastfeeding, I know I would feel totally gutted if I never could breastfeed and will do anything I can and have done so a mum can experience it and get the chance to give it her best shot.

We are now thanks to women like Thatcher, a formula culture and the medical profession is slack!

I do think though that we are starting (slowly... very slowly) to turn around and the formula companies are shitting themselves to put it bluntly.

I recently read on another forum that a woman was told that formula companies will be making formula with less fats, but someone went onto say about the casein. (so its digested quicker)

Apprently to encourage more mums to breastfeed.

1. I doubt very much a multi billion formula company would be encouraging breastfeeding, this is what they want you to believe so it 'looks good'

2 .Kind of reminds me of the Craptimal advert with a woman breastfeeding and the baby was still protected when the mother moved onto their brand of formula. That it was ok to switch after 6 months because Craptimal will still look after your baby.

I know lots of people who saw that and thought it was wonderful that the formula advert was showing a woman breastfeeding. Clever advertising.

Just as it would be with this new line of formula, and the poor mothers would be spending more and going through it quicker.

Arse wipes, pure arse wipes!


These people in the formula industry only care about one thing.. profit.

They have some of the best marketing people money can buy.

It sick really how they should be allowed to make so much on the back of a child.

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Post by Squiglet on Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:39 pm

I can't believe that anyone could ever see a corporate giant putting its customers before profit. That just doesn't happen...That isn't capitalism. Of course the formula companies are going to think...excellent...a product that gets used up even more quickly than its predecessors... more formula used, means more formula sold... *head/desk*

Most formula companies nowadays show a woman breastfeeding. They have to at least say that their product is not intended to replace breastfeeding and breast is best... They are subjected to that by law... They push it though and try very hard to enable their product.

People forget that these companies spend billions and billions of dollars advertising their products. Having done marketing as part of my degree, I can attest to a lot of psychology that is employed in order to dupe people. Formula companies are on of the worst liars... makeup manufactures and general skin care are the next.

A classic example is the use of the phrase...thick creamy lather when commenting about shampoo... That means the product has a copious amount of SLS in it. This is essential petrol. It strips your hair of its natural oils and damages the skin and follicle... BUT...that is a selling product.

Marketing people love it when their target audience is ignorant, uneducated or just can't be bothered to investigate things for themselves. It makes their jobs very easy.

I can understand mothers 10 years ago and more. We didn't have the internet as a viable resource. Now we do so there is very little excuse imho.

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Post by Natasha on Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:59 pm

Yes with the information here in front of our faces with have no excuses, im sure its the internet that is playing a big factor as to why many more mums are breastfeeding.

Take this forum for example, im sure its helped many women (well I hope we have ) without sites like this and the many wonderful mothers giving their time for others, the governments breastfeeding statistics wouldn't be rising.

Well with our formula and generation of tv addicts, both go hand in hand.

With technology our world has turned very greedy, you can't make billions out of breastfeeding, but you could save that many from illnessses and death. But that wouldn't be profitable.

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Post by Squiglet on Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:17 pm

Natasha wrote:

With technology our world has turned very greedy, you can't make billions out of breastfeeding, but you could save that many from illnessses and death. But that wouldn't be profitable.

Unless you were a government funding a socialist health care system Laughing

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Post by indigosky2k on Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:56 pm

I've not got time to read all this thread just now the washing up calls but the sooner the NHS realise this is the case and put all there efforts into training ALL HV's and MW's to be proper BF consultants and make formula available only on prescription for those 2% of women who can't breastfeed, they will save themselves a fortune in the long run.
The lack of knowlege HCP's have on BF, how to do it successfully and it's benifits, long term, just me. Though I guess it shouldn't given all the money made by the formula companies and the fact they pushed ther goods so well for so long

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